RTV'ing

I disagree.
I think the current status of rtv time is great.
Makes a majority of people want to play the map chosen.
I mean it does in fact take 60-70 % of ALL players to do a successful rtv.
As for the "this is why I hate this server" comment, that's sort of funny.
Everyone knows when kids get pissed, they'll always say shit like this.
Just yesterday, someone said the same because of admin behaviour and one because of the players in the server.

The RTV system is fine. I do have a suggestion for voting in general:

Instead of 1,2,3,4 use F1,F2,F3,F4. The problem with using numbers is that many people use these binds for weapons and hit them on accident. So not only do they not get the weapon they need at that critical moment, they accidentally vote for a map they hate. Also, many people randomly hit a button just to get the menu off their precious monitor space. It would be nice to have an "abstain" option as well.

I've seen the F1 system used on TF2 servers and it works great.

Originally posted by BBP, post: 49490:

The RTV system is fine. I do have a suggestion for voting in general:

Instead of 1,2,3,4 use F1,F2,F3,F4. The problem with using numbers is that many people use these binds for weapons and hit them on accident. So not only do they not get the weapon they need at that critical moment, they accidentally vote for a map they hate. Also, many people randomly hit a button just to get the menu off their precious monitor space. It would be nice to have an "abstain" option as well.

I've seen the F1 system used on TF2 servers and it works great.

I rebound my F keys, I'd say it's useless to change, people are going to do what they want.

Originally posted by l337Espeon, post: 49491:

I rebound my F keys, I'd say it's useless to change, people are going to do what they want.

Even if you rebind weapon keys, say to mouse buttons, even clicking the mouse will "accidentally" vote for something. And since there is no button to abstain from voting, the current vote system is often based on chance. This is the underlying reason so many are unhappy with map choices.

Just a suggestion. I understand it must be difficult to implement.

If anyone knows of a better RTV plugin for SourceMod, let me know. It doesn't let you customize how many minutes before people can RTV after mapchange.

Originally posted by BBP, post: 49490:

The RTV system is fine. I do have a suggestion for voting in general:

Instead of 1,2,3,4 use F1,F2,F3,F4. The problem with using numbers is that many people use these binds for weapons and hit them on accident. So not only do they not get the weapon they need at that critical moment, they accidentally vote for a map they hate. Also, many people randomly hit a button just to get the menu off their precious monitor space. It would be nice to have an "abstain" option as well.

I've seen the F1 system used on TF2 servers and it works great.

When vote starts you still can use 1-6, even if all your keys are already bound. Like I use 1 and 3 to turn left/right. There is also a problem with Mac users. Like if we will be able to vote with F keys only. Mac users will pass the votes.

I believe there's a way so spectators don't count towards the vote and cant rtv either id like that.

Originally posted by Kastro, post: 49500:

I believe there's a way so spectators don't count towards the vote and cant rtv either id like that.

I agree with that. Sometimes when map changes, people who don't like it just go spectators and spam rtv.

@BBP
Simply typing "!revote" fixes that entire problem of picking a wrong map by mistake.

As for using other keys to vote, that's impossible in CSS as all the plugins run under the developer CVAR window. (All bound to numbers - CANNOT be changed). Source mod works that way, as does every other plugin.

As for TF2, entirely different scenario. Valve coded it's own map choosing plugin, that being using F1, F2 and so forth. Same engine, but coded in a completely different matter.

I think the only way to prevent "mistakes" when voting for a map would be to use a plugin that makes 1+2+3+4 all blank choices.
Other keys (5-9) would all have random assigned maps to choose.
That way, a person actually has to pick (read) the maps on the list and select one in order to remove the annoying window with maps in it.

I don't know the name of the plugin, but I'm sure I could find it for you Espeon. A little bit of browsing on the allied modders forums and viola !

Originally posted by Furchee, post: 49508:

@BBP
Simply typing "!revote" fixes that entire problem of picking a wrong map by mistake.

As for using other keys to vote, that's impossible in CSS as all the plugins run under the developer CVAR window. (All bound to numbers - CANNOT be changed). Source mod works that way, as does every other plugin.

As for TF2, entirely different scenario. Valve coded it's own map choosing plugin, that being using F1, F2 and so forth. Same engine, but coded in a completely different matter.

I think the only way to prevent "mistakes" when voting for a map would be to use a plugin that makes 1+2+3+4 all blank choices.
Other keys (5-9) would all have random assigned maps to choose.
That way, a person actually has to pick (read) the maps on the list and select one in order to remove the annoying window with maps in it.

I don't know the name of the plugin, but I'm sure I could find it for you Espeon. A little bit of browsing on the allied modders forums and viola !

That is a brilliant idea! Using 5-9 could help a lot.

Just set 1 and 2 two something other then votes you can set it to say something like don't 1 spam and chose carefully or something and make 3,4,5,6,7 map choices i know a lot of other servers that do this.

Originally posted by Kastro, post: 49512:

Just set 1 and 2 two something other then votes you can set it to say something like don't 1 spam and chose carefully or something and make 3,4,5,6,7 map choices i know a lot of other servers that do this.

Then how is Xiv or Bigloop gonna be voted for..

Originally posted by Mr.Cow, post: 49513:

Then how is Xiv or Bigloop gonna be voted for..

:D

Implying someone actually likes those maps.
Besides, they'd be moved to 3-4 instead or w/e